In this episode you will hear a conversation between two professors emeriti - Drs. John McDowell and William Hansen - celebrating the recent retirement of Dr. McDowell. Together they reflect on Dr. McDowell’s personal and professional trajectory in folklore from his early days as a music major (go figure!) at Swarthmore up through his 46 year career in the IU Department of Folklore and Ethnomusicology. Whether you are a colleague, friend, or student, we’re sure that there will be insights for you to appreciate in this episode. Ever busy, Dr. McDowell’s work is still ongoing through his involvement with the Diverse Environmentalisms Research Team (DERT). If you’re interested in hearing more about that research, check out our recent episode on the edited volume of Performing Environmentalisms.